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Magic Bullet Counseling

Everybody has their favorite official statement for the bottom of the DA 4856 counseling form. What's yours?



(Army Reserve, AR 135-178, para. 2-4):

You may be separated from the U.S. Army Reserve for [inability to obtain a valid family care plan][designated physical or mental conditions][entry level performance and conduct][unsatisfactory performance][misconduct][failure to meet army body composition standards], in accordance with AR 135-178, Chapter [6-5][6-7][8][9][12-1a or b][16] if you:


If separated, you could receive an [honorable], [general, under honorable conditions], [uncharacterized] or [under other than honorable] characterization of service.

If you receive less than an Honorable discharge, you can expect to encounter significant prejudice in civilian life. Any early separation action might result in recoupment of unearned enlistment bonuses, a loss of G.I. Bill or VEAP education benefits and no separation pay, if you were otherwise qualified. You could be required to repay the Government for any portion of an unearned reenlistment bonus or any educational benefits already used. If you have not completed the required time of enlistment, loss of accrued benefits will occur, and any monies reduced from your pay are not refundable. Your type of discharge will become a matter of permanent record, and may, consistent with the Privacy Act, be provided to Federal, state and local agencies.

You may be subject to a bar to reenlistment under AR 140-111; a written reprimand under AR 600-37; reduction in grade under AR 600-200, Chapter 6; MOS reclassification under AR 140-158; an adverse NCOER evaluation report (if eligible for one) under AR 623-105 or 623-205; extra training or instruction under AR 600-200, paragraph 4-6; flagging action under AR 600-8-2, and other adverse administrative action.




I am recommending the following action(s) be taken and where necessary referred to the Commander for action:

___Punishment under UCMJ____Corrective Training___Bar to reenlistment ___Flagging action____Other

I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to separate you from the Army IAW AR 635-200. If you are involuntary separated, you could receive an Honorable Discharge, a General (Under Honorable Conditions) Discharge, or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge.

An Honorable Discharge is a separation with honor based on the quality of service, which meets the standards of acceptable conduct and performance of duty. A General Discharge is a separation under honorable conditions, based on a military record being satisfactory but not sufficiently meritorious to warrant an Honorable Discharge. A discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions is based upon a pattern of behavior of one or more acts or omissions that constitutes a significant departure from the conduct expected of a soldier. An Honorable Discharge may be awarded under any provisions. A General Discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 5, Chapter 9, Chapter 13 and Chapter 14.An Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 14 for misconduct. If you receive an Honorable Discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. An involuntary honorable Discharge, however, will disqualify you from reenlistment for some period of time and may disqualify you from receiving transitional benefits (e.g., commissary, housing, health benefits) and the Montgomery GI Bill if you have not met other program requirements. If you receive a General Discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in the service for some period of time and you will be ineligible for some military and VA administered benefits, including the Montgomery GI Bill. If you receive a discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions, you will be ineligible for reenlistment and for most benefits, including payments of accrued leave, transitional benefits, the Montgomery GI Bill, and possibly transportation of dependents and household goods to home. You may also face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for General and Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharges. Although there are agencies to which you may apply to have your characterization of service changed, it is unlikely that such application will be successful. _______ (Soldier's initial)




Failure to follow these orders is a violation of article 92 (Failure to obey order or regulation) of the UCMJ and may result in initiation of action separating you from the U.S. Army under the provisions of Chapter (5) (8) (11) (13) (14), AR 635-200. Such action may result in either an Honorable Discharge, General Discharge, or an Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge. If you receive a General or an OTH Discharge, this could result in the possible loss of some or all Veterans Benefits and substantial prejudice in obtaining civilian employment. In addition, if you have contributed money to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you are released from active duty with a less than Honorable Discharge, you will not be eligible to receive money for educational purposes and any money already contributed for educational purposes is nonrefundable and may be forfeited.




You are being counseled in accordance with AR 635-200, paragraph 1-16, for your conduct as set forth in Part II above. Any further misconduct, inappropriate actions, or deficiencies in your performance may result in punitive action under the UCMJ and/or initiation of separation UP AR 635-200. Separation action may result in your service being characterized as Honorable, General, or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions (UOTH). An Honorable Discharge entitles you to receive all discharge benefits. A General Discharge may result in substantial prejudice in civilian life and loss of certain benefits, such as civil service retirement credit and educational assistance. An UOTH Discharge could result in substantial prejudice in civilian life, and may result in the loss of most or all benefits as a veteran under both Federal and State laws. Some of the benefits you would not be eligible for with an UOTH discharge are payment for accrued leave, health benefits, civil service preference, reemployment rights, unemployment compensation and naturalization benefits. An involuntary separation might result in recoupment of unearned enlistment bonuses, a loss of G.I. Bill or VEAP educational benefits, and no separation pay. It is very difficult to upgrade a less than honorable discharge.




You are being counseled for poor performance/misconduct. Continued poor performance/misconduct can result in separation UP 135-178 chapters 9 and 12; or transfer to the IRR. If separated, you could receive a discharge with a characterization of service as General under honorable conditions or under other than honorable conditions. A discharge under less than honorable conditions could affect your entitlement to reenlistment, civilian employment, veterans' employment, veterans' benefits, and education assistance benefits. While you can apply to the Discharge Review Board or Army Board for Correction of Military Records to upgrade the character of your service, it is unlikely that you will be successful. (Active Guard/Reserve (AGR))




You are hereby notified that if this type of conduct continues, actions may be initiated to separate you from the Army National Guard prior to your scheduled ETS Date IAW AR 135 178. If you are involuntary separated, you could receive an Honorable Discharge, a General (Under Honorable Conditions) Discharge, or a Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge. If you receive a discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions, you will be ineligible for reenlistment and for most benefits, including payments of accrued leave, transitional benefits, the Montgomery GI Bill, VA benefits, and You may also face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment.




I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to separate you from the Army IAW AR 635-200. If you are involuntary separated, you could receive an Honorable Discharge, a General (Under Honorable Conditions) Discharge, or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge. An Honorable Discharge is a separation with honor based on the quality of service, which meets the standards of acceptable conduct and performance of duty. A General Discharge is a separation under honorable conditions, based on a military record being satisfactory but not sufficiently meritorious to warrant an Honorable Discharge. A discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions is based upon a pattern of behavior of one or more acts or omissions that constitutes a significant departure from the conduct expected of a soldier. An Honorable Discharge may be awarded under any provisions. A General Discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 5, Chapter 9, Chapter 13 and Chapter 14. An Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 14 for misconduct. If you receive an Honorable Discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. An involuntary honorable Discharge, however, will disqualify you from reenlistment for some period of time and may disqualify you from receiving transitional benefits (e.g., commissary, housing, health benefits) and the Montgomery GI Bill/ 9/11 GI Bill if you have not met other program requirements. If you receive a General Discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in the service for some period of time and you will be ineligible for some military and VA administered benefits, including the Montgomery GI Bill/ 9/11 GI Bill. If you receive a discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions, you will be ineligible for reenlistment and for most benefits, including payments of accrued leave, transitional benefits, the Montgomery GI Bill, 9/11 GI Bill, and possibly transportation of dependents and household goods to home. You may also face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for General and Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharges. Although there are agencies to which you may apply to have your characterization of service changed, it is unlikely that such application will be successful. _______ (Soldier's initials)




If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to separate you from service per AR 635-200. If you are involuntary separated, you could receive an Honorable Discharge, a General (Under Honorable Conditions) Discharge, or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge. If you receive an Honorable Discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. An involuntary separation for any other discharge however may disqualify you from benefits to include but not limited to: reenlistment, transitional benefits (e.g. commissary, housing, health benefits), the Montgomery G.I. Bill, VA administered benefits, payments of accrued leave, and transportation of dependents and household goods. In addition you could face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have low regard for general and Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharge. There are agencies to which you may apply in an attempt to change the characterization of your discharge, however it is unlikely that any such application would be successful. SM initials__________




Failure to follow these orders is a violation of article 92 (Failure to obey order or regulation) of the UCMJ and may result in initiation of action separating you from the U.S. Army under the provisions of Chapter (5) (8) (11) (13) (14), AR 635-200. Such action may result in either an Honorable Discharge, General Discharge, or an Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge. If you receive a General or an OTH Discharge, this could result in the possible loss of some or all Veterans Benefits and substantial prejudice in obtaining civilian employment. In addition, if you have contributed money to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you are released from active duty with a less than Honorable Discharge, you will not be eligible to receive money for educational purposes and any money already contributed for educational purposes is nonrefundable and may be forfeited.




I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. Be advised that continued conduct of this nature may result in initiation of a bar to reenlistment, administrative action to include your separation from the service, and/or punitive action (i.e. UCMJ action). If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to involuntarily separate you from the service under AR 635-200, Chapter 5, 11, 13 or 14. If you are involuntarily separated, you could receive an Honorable, General Under Honorable Conditions, Other Than Honorable, or Uncharacteristic Discharge. An Honorable Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 5, 13 and 14. An Uncharacteristic Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 11. A General Under Honorable Conditions Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 5, 13 and 14. An Other Than Honorable Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 14. If you receive an Honorable Discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from your military service. If you receive a General Under Honorable Conditions Discharge or an Uncharacteristic Discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in to the service for some period (i.e. at least two years) and you will be ineligible for many veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery G.I. Bill. If you receive Other Than Honorable Discharge, you will be ineligible for most, if not all, veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you will be precluded from reenlisting in the service. If a General Under Honorable Conditions, Other Than Honorable, or Uncharacteristic Discharge is given, you may face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for less than Honorable Discharges. Although agencies exist to which you may apply to upgrade a less than Honorable Discharge, it is unlikely that such application will be successful.




This "Magic Bullet" is directly from JAG in regards to an Event Oriented Counseling.

"Pursuant to 1-16, AR 635-200, this constitutes a formal counseling session concerning your noted deficiencies. You will be given a reasonable period of time to correct these deficiencies and to rehabilitate yourself into a productive satisfactory Soldier. Your conduct will be monitored during this time and you will be given an opportunity to prove yourself. If your performance and conduct continues to be unsatisfactory, you could be processed for separation under Chapter 5-13 or 5-17 AR 635-200. You could also be chapter under Chapter 9, 13, or 14. If you are processed for separation under Chapters 9 or 13 you could receive a general discharge and if processed under Chapter 14, Section III, you may receive up to an Other Than Honorable Discharge. Regardless of the type of discharge that you may receive it may have serious consequences effecting civilian, veterans benefits, or future service."




Be advised that continued conduct of this nature may result in initiation of a bar to re-enlistment, administrative action to include your separation from the service, and/or punishment actions (i.e... UCMJ action). If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to involuntarily separate you from the service under AR 635-200, Chapter 5, 11,13, or 14. If you are involuntarily separated, you could receive an Honorable, General Under Honorable Conditions, Under other than honorable, honorable Conditions, or Uncharacterized discharge. An Honorable discharge may be awarded under Chapter 5,13, and 14. And Uncharacterized discharge may be awarded under Chapter 11. A General Under Honorable Conditions discharge may be awarded for a Chapter 5,13, and 14. An Other than Honorable Conditions discharge may be awarded for chapter 14. If you receive and Honorable discharge you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. If you receive a General Under Honorable Conditions or an Uncharacterized discharge, you will be disqualified from re-enlisting in the service for some period (i.e...at least 2 years) and you will be ineligible for many veterans benefits to include but not ! limited to the Montgomery GI Bill. If you receive an Other than Honorable discharge, you will be ineligible for most, if not all veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery GI Bill, and you will be precluded from re-enlisting in the service. If either a General Under Honorable Conditions, Other than Honorable Conditions, or an Uncharacterized discharge is given, you may face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for less than Honorable discharges. Lastly, although agencies exist to which you may apply to upgrade a less than honorable discharge, it is unlikely that such an application will be successful




Be advised that failure to complete a task of this nature may result in initiation of a bar to reenlistment, administrative action to include your separation from the service, and/or punitive action (i.e., UCMJ action). If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to involuntarily separate you from the service under AR 635-200, Chapter 5, 11, 13, or 14. If you are involuntarily separated, you could receive an Honorable, General Under Honorable Conditions, Under Other than Honorable Conditions, or Uncharacterized discharge. An Honorable discharge may be awarded under Chapter 5, 13, and 14. An Uncharacterized discharge may be awarded under Chapter 11. A General Under Honorable Conditions discharge may be awarded for a Chapter 5, 13, and 14. An Under Other than Honorable Conditions discharge may be awarded for a Chapter 14. If you receive an Honorable discharge you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. If you receive a General Under Honorable Conditions discharge or an Uncharacterized discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in the service for some period (i.e., at least two years) and you will be ineligible for many veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery G.I. Bill. If you receive an Under Other than Honorable Conditions discharge you will be ineligible for most, if not all, veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you will be precluded from reenlisting in the service. If a General Under Honorable Conditions, Under Other than Honorable Conditions, or Uncharacterized discharge is given, you may face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for less than Honorable discharges. Lastly, although agencies exist to which you may apply to upgrade a less than Honorable discharge, it is unlikely that such an application will be successful.











I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. If this conduct is repeated, action may be initiated to separate you from the Army under AR 635-200, Chapters 5, 9, 13, or 14. If you are involuntarily separated, you could receive an Honorable discharge, a General, under honorable conditions, discharge, or an Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharge. An Honorable discharge may be awarded under any provision. A General discharge may be awarded for separation UP Chapters 5, 9, 13, and 14. An Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharge may be awarded for separation UP Chapter 14. If you receive an Honorable discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. An involuntary Honorable discharge, however, will disqualify you from reenlistment for some period of time and may disqualify you from receiving transitional benefits (e.g., commissary, housing, health benefits) and the Montgomery G.I. Bill. If you receive a General discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in the service for some period of time and you will be ineligible for some benefits including the Montgomery G.I. bill. If you receive an Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharge, you will be ineligible for reenlistment and for most benefits including payment for accrued leave, transportation of dependents and household goods to home, transitional benefits and the Montgomery G.I. Bill. You may also face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment, as employers have a low regard for the General and Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharges. Although there are agencies to which you may apply to have the character of your discharge changed, it is unlikely that any such applications will be successful.




This counseling statement has been furnished to you, not as a punitive measure under the provisions of article 15, UCMJ, but as an administrative measure to stress that continued behavior of the same or a similar nature may result in initiation of action separating you from the U.S. Army under the provisions of Chapter (5) (8) (11) (13) (14) , AR 635-200. Such action may result in either an Honorable Discharge, General Discharge, or an Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge. If you receive a General or an OTH Discharge, this could result in the possible loss of some or all Veterans Benefits and substantial prejudice in obtaining civilian employment. In addition, if you have contributed money to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you are released from active duty with a less than Honorable Discharge, you will not be eligible to receive money for educational purposes and any money already contributed for educational purposes is nonrefundable and may be forfeited.




Separation actions may be initiated if unsatisfactory behavior or performances continues. Unsatisfactory performances and acts or patterns of misconduct can result in separation from the Army under AR 635-200. Chapter 13 (Unsatisfactory Performance) us the commanders judgment of your performance. Chapter 14 (Misconduct) is misconduct because of minor disciplinary infractions, a pattern of misconduct, commission of a serious offense, conviction by civil authorities, desertion, and absence without leave. Under the provisions of these chapters, discharge from the Army can be characterized as: Chapter 13 Honorable or under honorable conditions as warranted by their military record. Chapter 14: a Discharge under other than honorable conditions is normally appropriate for a soldier under this chapter. However, the separation authority may direct a general discharge if such is merited by the soldiers overall record.




This counseling statement has been furnished to you, not as a punitive measure under the provisions of article 15, UCMJ, but as an administrative measure to stress that continued behavior of the same or a similar nature may result in initiation of action eliminating you from the U.S. Army for (Involuntary Separation Due To Parenthood) (Personality Disorder) (Entry Level Performance and Conduct) (Unsatisfactory Performance) (Misconduct or Minor Disciplinary Infractions) under the provisions of Chapter (5) (8) (11) (13) (14) , AR 635-200. Such action may result in the issuance of either an Honorable Discharge, General Discharge, or an Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge. If you receive a General or an OTH Discharge, this could result in the possible loss of some or all Veterans Benefits and substantial prejudice in obtaining civilian employment. In addition, if you have contributed money to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you are released from active duty with a less than Honorable Discharge, you will not be eligible to receive money for educational purposes and any money already contributed for educational purposes is nonrefundable and may be forfeited.




I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to separate you from the Army under AR 635-200, Chapters 5, 9, 13, or 14. If you are involuntarily separated, you could receive an Honorable discharge, a General, under honorable conditions, discharge, or an Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharge. An Honorable discharge may be awarded under any provision. A General discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 14. If you receive an Honorable discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. An involuntary Honorable discharge, however, will disqualify you from reenlisting for some period of time and may disqualify you from receiving transitional benefits (e.g., commissary, housing, health benefits) and the G.I. Bill. If you receive a General discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in the service for some period of time and you will be ineligible for some benefits including the 9/11 G.I. Bill. If you receive an Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharge, you will be ineligible for reenlistment and for most benefits including payment for accrued leave, transportation of dependents and household goods to home, transitional benefits and 9/11 G. I. Bill. You may also face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment, as employers have a low regard for the General and Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharges. Although there are agencies to which you may apply to have the character of your discharge changed, it is unlikely that any such applications will be successful.




I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. Be advised that continued conduct of this nature may result in initiation of a bar to reenlistment, administrative action to include your separation from the service, and/or punitive action (i.e. UCMJ action). If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to involuntarily separate you from the service under AR 635-200, Chapter 5, 11, 13 or 14. If you are involuntarily separated, you could receive an Honorable, General Under Honorable Conditions, Other Than Honorable, or Uncharacteristic Discharge. An Honorable Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 5, 13 and 14. An Uncharacteristic Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 11. A General Under Honorable Conditions Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 5, 13 and 14. An Other Than Honorable Discharge may be awarded under Chapter 14. If you receive an Honorable Discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from your military service. If you receive a General Under Honorable Conditions Discharge or an Uncharacteristic Discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in to the service for some period (i.e. at least two years) and you will be ineligible for many veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery G.I. Bill. If you receive Other Than Honorable Discharge, you will be ineligible for most, if not all, veterans benefits to include but not limited to the Montgomery G.I. Bill and you will be precluded from reenlisting in the service. If a General Under Honorable Conditions, Other Than Honorable, or Uncharacteristic Discharge is given, you may face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for less than Honorable Discharges. Although agencies exist to which you may apply to upgrade a less than Honorable Discharge, it is unlikely that such application will be successful.




I am counseling you for the conduct noted above. If this conduct continues, action may be initiated to separate you from the Army IAW AR 635-200. If you are involuntary separated, you could receive an Honorable Discharge, a General (Under Honorable Conditions) Discharge, or Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge. An Honorable Discharge is a separation with honor based on the quality of service, which meets the standards of acceptable conduct and performance of duty. A General Discharge is a separation under honorable conditions, based on a military record being satisfactory but not sufficiently meritorious to warrant an Honorable Discharge. A discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions is based upon a pattern of behavior of one or more acts or omissions that constitutes a significant departure from the conduct expected of a soldier. An Honorable Discharge may be awarded under any provisions. A General Discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 5, Chapter 9, Chapter 13 and Chapter 14. An Under Other Than Honorable Conditions Discharge may be awarded for separation under Chapter 14 for misconduct. If you receive an Honorable Discharge, you will be qualified for most benefits resulting from military service. An involuntary honorable Discharge, however, will disqualify you from reenlistment for some period of time and may disqualify you from receiving transitional benefits (e.g., commissary, housing, health benefits) and the Montgomery GI Bill/ 9/11 GI Bill if you have not met other program requirements. If you receive a General Discharge, you will be disqualified from reenlisting in the service for some period of time and you will be ineligible for some military and VA administered benefits, including the Montgomery GI Bill/ 9/11 GI Bill. If you receive a discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions, you will be ineligible for reenlistment and for most benefits, including payments of accrued leave, transitional benefits, the Montgomery GI Bill, 9/11 GI Bill, and possibly transportation of dependents and household goods to home. You may also face difficulty in obtaining civilian employment as employers have a low regard for General and Under Other Than Honorable conditions discharges. Although there are agencies to which you may apply to have your characterization of service changed, it is unlikely that such application will be successful.





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